–I would be VERY upset if this were true:
“If you knew she ripped the heads off of small animals in her spare time would you still be attracted to her?

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–Just remember, fellas:
“Do whatever you need to do to get rid of your agenda and stay true to being yourself.”

=P.S.=
–Again, not okay:
“Personally I just assume she might have dismembered puppy heads in her purse.”
#1´s last blog ..The Nature of Attraction

NLPers (and most community guys) always have to do something to be better, put in lots of hard work…they have very little concept of how to just “be” with wherever they are and it dissolves away. That means that they will never be good enough, until they see that that nothing is wrong, it’s just we all have been trained in a skewed perspective that “hot” women have more value as people than others. But this is so far out of their reality, that they will use another NLP/psych techinque to analyze and breakdown every interaction to make it “better”, Dan’s comments, and my comment here. Sounds like a recipe for unhappiness to me and a lot of work. Remember guys Juggler is more Zen than anything, easier is better. As Americans we are trained to think harder work is better. It’s much more than just about pickup here.

Dan great post, I 100% agree via my experience. See her for who she is, a person first, because when you kiss her cheek to say goodbye, maybe she wiped her ass with her hand and brushed her cheek with it 10 minutes before you kissed it. And I’m freakin’ serious about this one, you wouldn’t believe some of the habits hot girls have guys. So that puppy heads thing in the purse is dead on!

But seriously Dan, I want to thank you for this post, it addresses where I am at right now.

Hope you don’t mind I plagiarized this particular blog post a bit… but gave you credit, this addresed my particular sticking point.

Thanks for all the free info.

In the end, the ultra hot women with boring personalities. Pretty easy for me not to have an agenda because they bore me so i don’t have any other agenda than to talk to someone more interesting. But the more i do this the more i find if i find someone boring it is my inability to draw out what makes them unique and interesting.

LOL, yeah I give hot women such a hard time, I’m ten times more challenging towards them, it makes it more obvious I’m macking.

xxx Goose.

JM and SHH’s blog is by far the best out there. Before I ever discovered this community, I would have occasional success with women and was never sure what it was that I did to get them. But after reading JM and this blog I can totally identify with the method and I KNOW that it works because it worked for me. I now know exactly what I did to find success and what I need to work on to continue having success.

Keep up the good work. I’ll never go back to one of those Other methods again.

The question I asked myself and headed me to Juggler method was: Are they loving You or “YOU”?

I don’t like JM because it’s more effective than any other one. I don’t “fk close more” with JM. I’m just more happy, more Me. The other way I felt like unfrank.

In spanish frankness is diferent from sincerity. Sincerity talks about what you THINK, it’s ego work. Frankness is the heart (the soul, the spirit, whatever is the deep truth you belive in) talkin. That’s the difference I’ve felt between JM and what I’d seen before (DD and MM).

It’s not about success, it’s about feelin good baby.

Larrumba

and i have never heard about the theory that ‘what you say’ is 7% of someone’s impression of you. i feel that body language is very important, but not 93% of how someone sees you.

I spent last weekend with a true PUG (one of the best in the world). His conversation was average at best (usually it was bad), but he oozed sexuality, confidence and masculinity in his BL, tonality and kino. He only approached girls HB8 and above for the whole weekend (probably did about 50 approaches) and every single girl loved him within seconds of his approach. He could have f-closed every one of them.
This opened my eyes as to how much is possible without good conversation. JM leaves out so much that isn’t conversation. I don’t know if this side came naturally to Wayne or if he gradually developed it over time without putting in a concerted effort, but it’s not emphasised in his material.
In my experience, most guys are quite good at having a conversation and the other 93% is where they really have their problems.

Not flaming, just still in awe over what this guy did.

davich

Anyway, dead on about HWS, we’ve all put women on pedestals when we should have tried to see what’s their personality like.

Does this mean that when you try to kiss her, you actually go a bit farther just to check the inside of her purse for any puppy ear protruding?

Seeing this guy likes to go around in the community and gets off on criticizing everyone yet stays anonymous says a lot.

So until he gets bored of posting and me never approving his posts we’ll go to moderated comments.

Anyway, lets not encourage him by responding to his posts. My policy is if a comment adds no value to this blog I will delete it. This is not a forum, i am not going to accept flame messages here. Either contribute some useful opinion, compliment, question, disagreement, otherwise i’ll delete it. I am leaving this round because he brings up some points i’d like to discuss. Albeit these points are COMPLETELY off topic.

Ok first, the Ross Jefferries stuff. I don’t care if he has something better. This blog is my method, even more than it is anything that i learned from Charisma Arts. These are my understandings and ideas. Not everything i post here i would even post or teach at Charisma Arts. These are my ramblings. And yes i will shamelessly steal ideas from anyone and everyone and repackage them as my own! Wait isn’t that how everyone does it? They learn something from someone and then put their own ideas about it together and then share it? Anyway enough said.

Oh ya there is that point about Wayne stealing stuff and HOLES in his stuff. I actually would love to hear any legitimate ideas on places where the method is missing something. As for Wayne stealing stuff, since when is any of this stuff all that original anyway? Who cares. He has packaged it differently and it works within his framework, which IS very different than other peoples. What is great is everyone has a very different philosophy. It is their techniques that overlap. If you understand Ross’s philosophy, or Mystery’s Philosophy, or Wayne’s, then you don’t even need their techniques and you can organically be yourself within that framework.

Last point. Normally i wouldn’t bother responding to this guys post but he framed that learning from someone still learning is a bad thing. I actually don’t consider myself any amazing PUA. I am not a pick up artist. I like being social, i have as much success with women as i have ever wanted, and i like sharing what i know. Period. There are tons of people better than me out there. I know my strengths. I am good at articulating these ideas so people understand them. If you expect me to demonstrate a kiss close in 30 seconds, don’t bother, others could do it better. If you want to see how a convesation is made personal, and that i can uncover something interesting about ayone, then i’ll gladly demonstrate that. The fact is I am still learning, and will always be learning.

So I invite you to join me on my journey, one that is never going to have a destination, hitching from set to set. Come learn with me and let’s enjoy the ride.

make yourself comfortable with the fact that you may never be with another female for the rest of your life, and things get so much easier. as much as i LOVE girls, i don’t need them.

when i walk up to a hot girl, just from her looks i am interested in pursuing her. how can i not be? however, i am totally fine with never seeing her again. i am interested, but unattached.

As for ’stealing’ material from other methods; again, this is a community. We’re all here to learn from each other, full stop. You’ll never hear the ‘big-name gurus’ whine about guys ’stealing’ from them, because that concept in itself is ridiculous.

Lastly, sometimes the ‘big holes’ in ‘material’ or framework are indeed left there on purpose, namely because they should be filled in through field work such that they’re congruent with your identity. This is much more powerful than borrowing (in these particular areas especially) from another, and then fighting an uphill battle to make it yours.

Kudos on the blog. I’m learning right here with you bro.

-Harbinger

Delete them.

I discovered this when I had a cold and went on my 1st real date with an LosAngeles 10: an ex-model yoga instructor babe.

Since I knew I had a cold and didn’t want to give it to her, I knew we wouldn’t be kissing. This put me much more at ease. Otherwise I’d have been incredibly nervous.

I was able to joke around. I was goofy (DQ-ing) and funny, leading and got lots of compliance. Stuff she probably rarely gets from guys.

Only problem was: at the end of the date she definitely wanted to kiss and fuck! When I turned down the kiss, she says, “I don’t have to be up early in the morning!”

Hmm….maybe this isn’t such a great approach after all.

Don’t bother even wasting time on comments like the two before…

I think pre-approving your comments like you did a while back wouldn’t be a bad idea, bullshit like that doesn’t even need to be seen to the world.

Rock on man, we all love you,

Pieter